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one, two, three, four. >> any way, hit the red button, and it will start the camera. oh, it did start. >> it's not going to light up?t >> no, not yet. so why don't we just start from the beginning. i'm goingta to shut the door, a then whene you're ready, you ph go. >> okay. >> thanks.n yo
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>> yeah, this is difficult. >> hello, my name is michael mcmullin, and i'm speaking to you on january 17th inside of a plywood box here to relate my rec elections of 9/11. um, i mean, obviously, it's very unresolved for me. >> i could see the damage being
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done to people, when they couldn't tell their own story in their own words. it was just planes, planes, planes, building down, building down. there was absolutely no space for more complicated stories about what people actually felt. so this is it. well, go check to see. i just clicked it. see if it went off. >> so we wanted to bust open space forte that. >> as you can see, we're in action. >> once people went inside the booths, they controlled the recording. they controlled their own story
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>> hey. >> it became absolutely clear that this really was a very shattered experience with a lot of feeling and emotion behind it. >> i'm just not -- >> and our purpose was to capture exactly that. to tell the personal truth of what 9/11 was. >> okay. this is not working.
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>> what the hell was that? >> the trade center, the trade center! >> oh my god. oh my god. oh my god. >> so my husband and i had decided that we were going to take the morning to do sommer rands and have breakfast together.orni and so we dropped our daughter off at school.r i came down the stairs from the school, and my husband was talking to a stranger, and he
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had a -- a page from a paperback novel in his hand, and the edges were burnt. and i said what's that? he said look over there. >> oh my god. what is up with that? [ siren ] >> is on fire. the whole left side of the building is just a huge explosion.e >> my first thought was is that the building that my son works in?wa because if that was his building, my son was in a lot of trouble because the smoke was up high and my son worked on the 105th floor. >> jesus christ.
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>> i remember holding up my hand to the building and trying somehow to count down the number of floors from the top of the building. and i said to myself, how can he get past that fire? >> was just terrible. it was bleeding. the building was bleeding into the sky.ib i said to myself, this doesn't feel good. this is something terribly wrong. there are people up there.so >> stay where you are. they're making their way up now. >> i was on the 87th floor, and i didn't know what hit us. i mean, we thought it was an earthquake, and we shook so strong. the shake was so strong that we thought we were just going to tilt right over in the water beneath us.
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>> i heard something coming overhead, and you could hear, it sounded like a plane was in distress. you heard it like it was in trouble. >> i said, steve, what is that smell? he s said, i don't know. it smells like gas. it smells like fuel. maybe it was a plane. that's when i started to cry, started toar panic. what are we going to do? they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. what do you say we see what this bird can do? woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. looks like we're walking, kid. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ (vo) this is more than just a building. it's an ai-powered investment firm with billion-dollar views.
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we have a breaking news story to tell you about. apparently a plane has crashed into the world trade center here in new york city. >> so my mother got on the phone, and she lived just across the street from the world trade center. come over here. did you put your tv on? do you know what's happening? and i said no. she said oh my god. and she was crying hysterically. i said mom, what's going on? and my brother said don't tell her, don't tell her, tell her to come here now.
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>> across the street. >> people say that it's chaos down there at the scene, and eyewitnesses say that this plane actually seems to be in the building. >> the plane. >> at this point, i thought oh, this is just a fire. that's not so bad. there will be scaffolding on the world trade center for years, and they'll fix it. but then i saw my dad on the sidewalk, and he turned around and he was crying. and he was hysterical. and i've never really seen my dad cry. and he said oh my god, they were just going to work like i go to work. they were just going to work today. >> i took off my shoes because everybody knows i wear shoes, jojo wears high heels all the
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time. i'm known for it. so what i did is i took off my shoes and rolled up my pants and i put my sweater around my waist, and we all got together and we all crawled through the debris and smoke. we looked at the other side of the floor. all you saw was a black hole. >> police officer, what's your emergency? >> okay, seriously, we're trapped in the west hallway. hello, sir? hello? hello? >> realizing that you're helpless is a terrible thing for a parent. i mean, that's my son. my perfect son. maybe he'll go up to the roof.
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helicopters will save him. maybe he has already escaped. but he must have gone past that fire, because he is alive and he is going to come out to me. and it's a story that we'll tell to each other and to his children, my grandchildren in the future. >> hi, my name is lisa knapp, and today is september 10th, 2002. i basically spent the past 364 days trying to avoid what happened. just because i'm not ready, and i thought maybe this would be the best way to do it. so this is kind of a therapy for me as much as it is, you know,
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telling my story. with all -- all the debris falling, one of the guys at my desk grabbed me and said let's go, let's get out of here. but then it dawned on me that my friend lindsey moorhouse, one of my best friends from school was in the second tower on the 89th floor. she's got to be okay. obviously she has to be okay because there is no way anything bad could ever happen to anybody i know. >> into the second building! >> stupidly, i left my cell phone on my desk. and so i didn't know how to get in touch with her. >> a second airplane, a 727 just
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rammed into the building. >> i remember understanding that it was terrorism at that moment, but i just -- i think i was just in such shock that i didn't feel any pain. i didn't understand the significance. >> i grabbed my camera, got my videotape, went outside my building, and i could not believe it. it sounds fun i know have this analogy, but a "star wars" movie when obi-wan kenobi heard the planet exploding in the beginning, and he said something like he heard the voices of a million people who perished. that loud explosion, i really felt like the voices of all those lives.
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>> i kept saying over and over "i'm scared, i'm scared." i mean, i was born and raised in philadelphia in the ghetto. so i thought i was a tough cookie. i really did. i really thought i was a tough person. i could handle anything. but i realized just how much i couldn't handle. >> in the air, you could feel the reality of it. it was just so very apparent that the world had changed. >> what shocks me now is i could have lived 54 years and not
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understood how instantaneously things can change and how suddenly just in an instant life is gone, and you go from a moment of just this extraordinary beauty to this extraordinary horror and terror and ugliness. >> it -- it flipped me into a different sort of consciousness about where i was in the world. suddenly i wasn't just in my apartment in some neighborhood in new york city. suddenly, i was witnessing some colossal terrifying process of being in the world. >> i guess maybe now getting this off my chest, i'm a little more willing to talk about things and to face what happened and to come to terms with
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lindsey's death. but i just can't get over the fact that she's gone because it's just -- it's too much to think about. and what happened that day is still too much for me to think about. so, yeah. i guess that's it. >> okay, this unfortunately is typical. it's only in the movies that you get the advanced warnings. >> larry, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but jim miklaszewski has some new information at the pentagon now. are you there? >> according to intelligence officials, katie, they had no early indication that anything of this nature could happen. >> it was my first day here at the pentagon. i brought a few personal items with me that day. i brought a bible. i brought my palmpilot.
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i brought a novel for me to read at lunchtime. >> i went to go meet my younger sister patty in the center court, which is in the center of the pentagon. and we talked for a while, and we joked. and we also mentioned the uncomfortableness about what was going on in new york that day. and i remember thinking at one point, oh, let's go shopping. let's get out of here. but too realistic and too dedicated to our work to do that. >> pentagon officials are scrambling to determine what course of action, if any, the u.s. military would take. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row. proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. that's why we're building 5g right, that's why there's only one best network.
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so you can rise from pain. we are getting reports that the fbi is investigating that these two planes have possibly been hijacked. if she is correct -- >> i said guys, it's the world trade center. if this is terrorism, they are going to hit the pentagon. staff sergeant weathers, that's
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crazy. not the pentagon. nobody can get to the pentagon. no way, no how. it's not going to happen. boom! everyone literally lost their mind. >> christ. >> right now we have an airplane that crashed into the pentagon. >> get back, get back! >> we began to rush out. but as i was going out, something in my mind as clear as a bell said go back. i could feel the heat going in. all i had was a t-shirt, undershirt that i ripped off and put around my face. >> we ran into the metal doors out there and broke the doors down and went in as far as we could go in. >> you could hear the fire above
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you crackling, and you could know that the smoke was around you because you couldn't see. >> going in. >> command, we've got reports of people trapped. >> a burst of burning debris from the ceiling fell and landed on my hands, and i shook my hands, and i got up out of my chair, and i started to look around. everything around me was on fire. the smoke and the fumes started to take my breath away, and i started to cough and choke. and at this point, i just really believed that my life was going to end at that point, and i cried out to jesus, and i asked him jesus to just help me, help me get out of this. and no sooner i spoke those
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words, there was a voice that i could hear through the smoke, "is there anybody in here?" and i called back to him and i said yes, yes, we're here, we're here. he said i can't see you. i said i can't see you either, but we're here. please keep coming. and then i looked up and i could see the silhouette of a figure moving. so i reached out through the smoke and there was a hand reaching back and it grabbed me and it pulled me and tried to help me. >> she explained how she prayed to come out and i told her how i prayed to go in. dear lord, give me the strength to save this woman's life. we answered each other's prayers. >> god called him to order and put him into action and he did not waver and he did not falter. he stood strong and brave and came forward.
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>> the army awarded me the purple heart and the soldiers medal, the highest medal for valor given during peacetime. i told them i didn't want the medals. my reward was when sheila told me i was her guardian angel. >> god is just an awesome wonder and it still to this day and will forever be a miracle to me that i am still alive.
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>> my name is donald byrd. i'm a choreographer living here in new york city. while i was watching what i thought was debris falling off the building, um -- it crossed my mind that it was people, and that was unbelievable to me that it might be people that was -- people that were falling out or jumping out of the building. and so i got a pair of binoculars to verify it. and what i saw were people holding each other and then
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leaning forward and falling out of the building. and the thing that struck me was that they didn't struggle. >> i said to myself this just can't be happening. i have to step back and i have to run and leap and bang my head into a wall to come out of the most horrific nightmare i've ever experienced. this can't be true. >> it was just too much. it was the sadness and the grief and a very deep sense of sadness and the mystery of it all.
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and i sat on a bench and sobbed for a while. >> and i just hated the people who had flown the planes into the building because they had forced people to make an impossible decision. either the fire or falling. >> let's move! let's move! >> evacuate the building. evacuate the building. >> i just drove like a bat out of hell to get as close to the pentagon as i could, to get to the day care because i knew that shelly would meet me there and we'd get the kids out. i pulled over and i ran down there and i found the kids and that was the happiest moment of
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i kept telling people, look for patty, look for patty. she's wearing a red dress. she is a smaller version of me. but i didn't want to show too much fear, so i kept looking around for her. i thought think positive because you're going to find her sometimes this afternoon or this evening. it's very, very confusing here. >> i was just hoping i would recognize her shape because everybody was so bundled up that was coming out. and i was looking around there and i didn't see anything. i just felt like i would know when i was near her. i just kept going, kept looking.
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and the wind was blowing in my face, and i thought of that letter from the civil war, the sullivan letter where he tells his wife that if he dies in battle, that he'll come back and be the breeze against her cheek. and i remember talking just to the breeze and telling shelly if that's you, you go back and you wait because we're coming to get you. >> we are living through a day, the 11th of september, 2001 that we will be dealing with for a good long time in our lives and our children as well in their own lives. >> i want my mommy. >> my headmaster said this was not a fire drill and that it was a terrorist attack.
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i mean, i never felt so scared in my entire life. i mean, during that day i was only scared to a certain point. i wasn't scared that something happened and i was going to die. i wasn't scared of me dying. i was scared of my parents dying. >> i remember seeing a boy on my way to my next class. he's one of those really popular boys, you know, the ones you expect to see a smile on his face, nothing's wrong. but that day he was crying hysterically. and all i wanted to do was go up to him and give him a hug. so i did. i had no idea what was wrong. all i know is that he needed
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someone and i was there for him on that day. >> only a very small handful of terror groups is on that list and at the top is osama bin laden. >> the phone started ringing. my husband is a very prominent islamic scholar, and we are muslims. and we realized at that very moment our life was about to change. because not only do we have to grieve for what has happened and feel the sorrow for all of victims, we now have to go on this defensive, to defend our faith. and this is a very big burden.
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but i feel this event is going to reshape the world into a better place, you know, and we will gain something from it but we have to be patient. >> you cannot stay here. i'm sorry. you got to go. go! >> let's go! gentlemen, let's go! >> at this point i looked at my mom and my family and i was like this is crazy. let's get out of here, let's go. i thought we maybe should just start walking away from the world trade center because what if it fell. and i said that and everybody started to calm me down. my neighbors said, oh honey are don't get upset. you're pregnant. you're really close to your due date. no, it's not going to fall. i said it's going to fall. they're going to fall. all. they need customized car insurance
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was so pregnant, i was hot. i was panicked. i'm going put her on the floor. just give me a second. >> i could actually feel something, something jump inside my body and make me run. >> 65. 35. 20. you saw the firemen coming up on the left. you saw the fear in their faces.
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all of a sudden i saw the light. i was like, wow, there's a light. and i was like here i go, i'm going out. and as i go out, a cop grabs me and says, miss, you can't go out there. i says, no, i got to go. and i fainted on the spot because what i saw was all the devastation, all the jumpers, all the people that jumped. at that point the cop picked me up and he carried me. >> it's going to fall! >> we're not safe. >> people cannot stay here.
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>> i ran to the corner, and i just dove under a car. when i dove under the car, a priest was with me and he started saying hail mary full of grace.
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>> holy good lord, dear god help us. i just said i'm sorry for everything i never got to do and i'm sorry for all that i never was, for the things i didn't work on, for the evil in me that i didn't cure and i loved my life. and i'm sorry i won't see my baby. >> you heard people screaming. you heard the debris hitting the car. >> and then all of a sudden you didn't hear a thing.
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>> all of my passionate sentiments goes out to the residents that is evident nevertheless, we must not stress, just go complete into quest. divinity speaking complex rhymes until infinity. mesmerized by the peace to come. in my heart is the song and in my soul is the drum. i think of the families entangled -- >> at the moment, i just got down on my knees and i pray in spanish, you know. [ speaking spanish ] please take care of my family and my wife. >> at a time like this, peace is the only thing that is true. may your loved ones rest in heaven. we're always going to be remembering the day that there was nothing for us to fear of, a day we saw nothing of our true heros. >> i took a few deep breaths and i blurted out as loud as i
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could. if you guys can hear my voice, that means you're still alive. what that means is every man get your face in your shirt right now. come on, do it, do it! >> true spirits, rising from the earth, may the terrorists know they never can defeat itself, the peace that we share and the people who le we love. thank you. >> i'm going to try to talk to some of these guys. >> this is the scene in lower manhattan where the upper floors world trade center tower one apparently have completely collapsed. >> the world trade center, can you tell me what you saw, what you heard? are you all right?
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>> after the first building fell, i saw these two women sitting next to each other, all dishevelled, and they looked like they were in shock. and they weren't saying anything. and they looked like they needed help. i walked over to them and i told them that i could take them to my parents' home and my mom could give them clothes and a shower and they could call people that loved them, whoever was missing them. but they didn't answer. and some other people started coming around, and i saw these people obviously knew a lot more about helping than i did. so i started backing away. and then i just got this gut feeling to take a picture.
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>> there was a nice jewish orthodox boy. he saw me in the street. he wanted to take me home to his mom and let me call my family. and i really, really appreciate that. >> she told me that i kind of changed her life around and i saved her day, these sort of things and i really felt silly because i didn't do anything really. i just took a few pictures. >> i do consider myself so lucky. there were people stuck up there, you know? my father started to call me lucky instead of jojo.
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from somerset county. this is united airlines 93. it crashed south of pittsburgh near the town of shanksville. >> my name is ernest stull. i'm the mayor of the small town of shanksville. i cannot stress that we do not mind the publicity, but we hate the way it happened. we did not want 40 people to be killed to put our little town on the map. >> reporter: three, two, one. pa state police tell us the crash scene up close looks like a scrapyard, leaving the crew and passengers unidentifiable. >> okay, i show all day work students assigned to this call. >> are there any identifiable pieces of the plane back in the tree line? >> there's nothing but debris. just small pieces of metal and
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aluminum and whatever the case may be. >> eyewitnesses say they saw? >> i couldn't compute what i was seeing. it just didn't seem real. >> right now the pennsylvania state police have secured the crash scene. >> i just wanted to know what happened, how it could have happened, why it happened. specifically because i am an airline pilot. i fly 737-800s. i would put myself in the cockpit and replay the different scenarios my mind and it was kind of a frightening experience because based on how we're trained, we're supposed to de-escalate the situation and try not to fly. fight, if not possible. i'm sure the pilots did not have a chance. they did not know what was happening and what was coming and i'm sure that they were executed.
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>> this is a massively well coordinated attack that is nothing short of a declaration of war on this country. >> and then another issue is i'm also in the military. i'm in the navy reserves. so i'm not sure at the moment, but am i going to be called up to fight or not? am i going to have to help protect our country? >> the rescue workers said we need stretcher bearers so i just ran and picked up a stretcher and headed further inside the security perimeter. i found myself looking at the door that led down the corridor to shelly's office. and there was smoke coming out
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and things were still burning and everything. you know, i stayed and i didn't have a choice. i knew that if she was in there and she was alive, she was expecting me to come get her. >> we pulled people out of smoky rooms. we carried wounded. i don't think i'll ever forget that pounding on a door or a scream from someone that we couldn't get to. >> command, we have structural collapse on the heliport side. >> right there i realized how
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important serving my country is. i have a son and any time i'm called to duty to go fight in any country, i will give my life for him. >> i kept going i just can't believe this. this can't be happening. please not patty. she was the catalyst for our family. she was the one who would bring all of us together. on my down days, i have to think she's there watching me and pushing me and saying keep going, keep going. i miss her so much. i, again, thank you for this
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opportunity. >> apparently the pilot who flew the plane into the pentagon, it was among us for a couple of years. how could he be in our company culture and walk amongst us and eat with us and not fall in love with any of us? i mean, it's beyond our mentality. >> the other building may come down. they've obviously evacuated the whole area as the result of the crash of one world trade center. now i'm told there's concern about the second one collapsing as well. plainly there has been an enormous amount of structural damage.
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>> my name is mary adam, and today is august 16th, 2002. >> it's going to. but if it's going to, i want to be up where it happen, you know what i mean? >> i talked a lot after september 11th about september 11th, but not so much about my brother charlie murphy, who was on the 105th floor and worked for cantor. >> there it goes. it's going. it's going down now. it's going down now. there it collapses. oh! oh, those poor people. oh, it's hard. >> when the north tower fell, i just couldn't believe it. i just fell almost at the same time down to my knee, and it
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was -- at that motel, i felt like i knew that charlie was gone. you know, but a minute later, i began to really believe that he was still alive, and we just went in default mode, default mode of trying to find charlie and where he would be. and then i heard that maybe there were a whole bunch of guys from cantor still alive underground and they had contacted people. and i grabbed on to that like, okay, you know, like this is definitely true. we were there for three days and calling and looking and following every possibility. my brother's like a hero in our family, just this big, jovial, full of life guy who was really
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wednesday morning. the morning people are waking up in disbelief with heavy hearts, especially those who have lost loved ones or are concerned about where their loved ones are. on the morning of the 12, with two of my paramedics, we went to ground zero we were hoping beyond hope that we would see someone.
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>> there was no day and no night, there was no time for us to leave. we just stayed there to help. in this war zone.
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people would walk by, total strangers and touch each other because you needed to feel life. >> i would just do a loop, go in and out of the blocks with big jugs of coffee, sugar, and milk it got to the point where we realize that the guys were waiting for us. they were so grateful. >> i used to be an empty, i wanted to help anyway i could. i climbed through holes and crevices, all over the freak in hell. there were so many weird things, burger kings, morgue it was a triage center, it was a massage tent. i carried bodies, parts of bodies, whatever --
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i never felt so helpless. >> these guys, these grown man they would come in and sit down and they would just tell you the stories of what they've been through that day in what they seen. >> the buckets were the things i couldn't stand, they would fill the buckets with body parts and leave them at our station. >> you had to hold it together because they were in there to talk to you, and they were there because they needed somebody to talk to, to listen to them. >> what they found, what they call, the remains of my son is a bone fragment. three inches by an inch and a half, by half an inch.
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so we have something of him to bury, certainly it isn't enough, but it's something. it's a torture that stays with you, and if there are people that can get out from underneath it got bless them. i know i can't. >> i always believed that every day should be treasured and that everybody deserves a chance, everybody is equal, i didn't use the word hate, i now use it with every fiber of my being, and i hate that i do. on september 21st, i gave birth to reagan, and it wasn't
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anything like i had planned, because it was so close to this tragedy. it was totally different, and i feel in certain aspects quite ruined. >> i read an account that a man gave about losing his son to a mountain climbing accident. he said that one of the biggest changes for him was that he no longer actively looks for happiness, but if it comes to him, unsolicited, he embraces it. and i think that is what happened to us. >> father in heaven, we are hurting -- >> it was in october, the city
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was having a service and it was a very upsetting day. but as we were leaving, we saw these therapy dogs -- >> now it's working. >> we just sat in the middle of the street and started to pick them. >> as she was putting my dog, she started to cry, she looked at me and she told me that she had lost her son in the world trade center. >> matthew. we always likened him to a golden retriever puppy. he kind of had the same loyalty, the same table manners. but he just loved dogs. >> my heart just went out to her, i said that i would like to name my new dog after her son matthew. it was our moment of joy, unsolicited.
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it's a perfect tribute to him. we're very grateful. >> that's it. >> and the last 90 days the nation has been consumed by grief, especially those directly affected by the attacks. >> the beginning of october, i got a job with fema. it was a one stop shop, relief center, people could come and they could get their food stamps and unemployment childcare, education, you name it. one afternoon at christmas time, the waiting room was stuffed, and everyone was so worried about money and holidays coming up and the poignant sense of loss, and one person asked talking to said i'm a singer and i've lost all these gigs, i don't have any money. and i said, would you mind
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here and to be talking about everything that has happened and change since then, and then specifically the experience of recording that video in this booth. >> today is september 10th 2002. >> it was 364 days after september 11th that wind and recorded that video, and i know
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that in those 364 days, i didn't deal with my feelings about lindsey or even a day of september 11th itself. i've avoided talking to my friends, my family, talking to coworkers about everything that happened just because i'm not ready. i mean, it's the worst thing i've ever seen. it's the worst thing i hope to see. for years it was too hard to even see a picture of that image that was everywhere. just the idea of going back and trying to process all of that, honestly, it felt impossible. but then, i went to the
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memorial the way that the water moves, all of those names around it, it's just a transformative experience. i was the so much more at peace with sharing my feelings with my kids, and they hear story about her all the time.
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i don't know, i just wonder if it will help them one day when they lose somebody they love, they'll be able to remember that i had a friend who i loved and i lost. and it's okay to be sad. it's okay to grieve. you can also live your life and you can love your life and you can be happy to. >> mary adams, and today's april 30th 2021. it won't be easy for me to mourn my brother. i was in good at it.
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and so i remember walking back into work, probably two weeks later, i'm a social worker by trade for girls that couldn't live at home, gradually throughout the day one by one, they would come in and check in and say hello and maybe give me a hug, not at me. for these girls, a brother being randomly killed on a beautiful tuesday wasn't unusual, many of them have lost brothers, siblings, cousins, parents, they understood, they knew it wasn't fixed or heal into weeks time. they knew i was. and in turn, they showed me a path. they did get up and go to school. we had some rough times, they
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had a lot of joy, and so i learned that you're never going to get just an of joy after, you have to accept the hard and find a way to integrate it and live with it and stale move forward. he still in my heart. i buy ground and i rub my heart, now, i don't hate watching that video bringing me back so close to 2000, 2001. it feels almost good, it feels as if i'm just closer to charlie.
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almost as if he could be right there. >> perfect, thank you. >> it was heartbreaking. absolutely heartbreaking. thinking about the people that died, it just stayed with me particularly the people jumping from the building. my name is donald bird, i'm a choreographer living here in new york city.
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i made it dance dollars directly related to how i felt. and not just that it haunted me, but also this idea of those people being at peace. once i was able to get that out, the kind of work that i did changed, i started to think about my artistic purpose differently. i started making work that address issues of social justice, race -- it no longer could be for me, it needed to be of service to the community.
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started to drink a hot chocolate, we're looking at the tv screen, showing the photos that were inside. >> every wall in the store, even the ceilings are lined with pictures. hundreds and hundreds of pictures. many of them are too powerful to explain. even for the people who were there. and i said dominic, that's us. when i found that picture, it actually changed my life. it just gave me a lot of closure, that's the word i'm looking for, it gave me closure. i was able to move on with my life, because it just made me feel better.
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he's part of my history. he caught me at the worst moment of my life, but that worse moment of my life brought me to the best moments of my life. >> ready daddy? >> losing a spouse it was a horrible place to be. i mean, when i open that booth door it was almost like looking out into darkness and thinking what was coming next? i didn't know, i did know how things were gonna shake out. we move to shepherd's town, west virginia.
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i wanted to get the kids out of d.c. because i was afraid that there could be another attack. i lived in constant fear of that. so we've been there a month, i was trying to be a full-time dad. i thought the kids needed that. but obviously, it was not always easy. then, one day i was cleaning out the family car, i didn't do that very often because i found a notepad under one of the seats, and it was shelley's notepad, he had a bunch of grocery list and stuff like that. it also had some words that she wrote down. they were, we have only a finite number of days on this earth, make some extraordinary and fill them with passion.
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and i have taken that as my guidance from her. >> how long does it take, people? >> to approach life with purpose. to make a positive difference. >> i remember the school had this excellent kindergarten teacher, it just so happened that her name was mrs. ahmed, she was a muslim woman, there was nothing wrong with the other one, but i told the principal i would really like the kids to go to miss our mans class, because all their life they are going to hear that muslims killed their mother, and that's just not true. it was in human scum who killed
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i absolutely wear with the preconceived notion that i was going to be heated. i was going to be maybe under a great deal of danger all the time, because they don't like americans. and they don't like christians. >> u.s. afghan relations are at a low point and already difficult relationship. one that relies on cooperation. >> so my, whole philosophy was okay, i'm just going to do the absolute minimum. keep myself out of harm's way and just work. but that meant having to travel outside of the base. outside of protection on our own. just with our weapons, jackets, helmets and gear. in travel to miles through a couple city streets to get to the ministry of defense were the afghan air force base.
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so, i come in the morning with extraordinary anxiety. all right, let's get to work. let's start working on these numbers and maintenance numbers. and how we're going to get these aircraft up and flying. and they be like, slow down, slow down, take it easy. how is your family doing? how is your your kids? are they healthy? i'm like yeah, yeah, they're healthy. let's get to work. slow down, slow down. and we would not get any work done until we talked about each other's families. and i started learning that. i thought that was cool. that's not something -- i mean, we all of our families. that they make a certain emphasis on it. ♪ ♪ ♪ regardless of whether we should have been and afghanistan, we shouldn't have been in afghanistan, we had a personal connection with each other.
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and i started realizing our common humanness. ou common humanness but hey, we're not so different from each other. i mean, i became so immersed in it that i change my complete perspective. i was like, i'm not leaving here without having done some positive or something good. because i felt like i'm working for my brothers. i could tell they felt the same way about me. >> when i sit back and i reflect on the reality that 20 years ago someone actually tried to murder me -- i could be very bitter about
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that. i had burns to my face. second-degree burns to my face. i had second and third degree burns to my hands and to the backs of my arms. but just as christ forgive me, i also have to forgive the people who carried out the act. i have granddaughters and i had to make sure that i didn't let that bitter grew in meat. i don't want them growing up with prejudice and bitterness and hatred. i don't want them seeing well, this group of people try to killed my grandmother. so, i don't like them. that is not showing unconditional love. >> okay, so if you just want to point to it.
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>> i don't know if this will be [laughs] if you will use this or not. but god has an awesome sense of humor. because our oldest son wife is from egypt, and she was raised muslim. [laughs] so, how would it be, how would i be if i held that in my heart. and here my son brings home this woman who he says he loves and wants to marry. and i'm like, no, you can't marry her. she's one of them. no, i'm going to hug her, love her, and embrace her. and they're about to give us our first grandson. it's awesome. ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> we're recording, right? all we can do now is try to correct the wrong thinking of people, so that future things like this do not happen. because of 9:11, american public was so concerned and fearful about islam, muslims, al-qaeda -- the enemy from within. that and i i as an architectural designer had to step up. i wanted to be part of the renewal of healing america. healing my faith. [noise] so, about ten years ago, we propose a community center. it was called the islamic
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cultural center in lower manhattan. a beautiful place that would be for all. >> go somewhere else! >> but then, people began to attack us. >> i think it's just a spirit in our face. i think they're laughing at us. >> and it really hurt me when they said, not you, not now, and not here. i started receiving he letters after he's letters. but i also started receiving love letters. and these letters always remind me to this day, that there indeed are two americas. wo americas. ♪ ♪ ♪ [noise] >> i'm feeling sad
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about america right now. i'm feeling sad because this was a nation that was a beacon of hope for many people. and over the years, post 9/11, [noise] we've come apart. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> let's talk about a tale of two cities. and america, september 12th 2001, and america whatever it
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is one day it is 2021. everybody was together. right? coeds, college kids bringing us peanut butter and jelly in wax paper on site. and america was probably as unified as it could ever be. >> there was no bipartisan divide. he >> just said, i'm in american. i have to do this. >> every buddy was one. >> the people that were down there and that i shared this with, we still keep in touch. >> i met people down there that i will be friends with for the rest of my life.
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>> diane and kim and sow, these people, they have a part of me now. >> kind of sums it up. even after 20 years. it has an emotional part to it. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> here we are. 20 years later. yeah. >> 20 years later. >> wow.
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baby. so happy. smiled all the time. and we felt so fortunate that we had you, because we were able to just focus on you. and even though there was so much a death around us at that time, you just brought so much hope to everybody. but then your grandfather was quickly diagnosed with cancer's relating to 9/11 talk since. so, you were dealing with that throughout your life. >> i think people underestimate the power behind tragedy. it's something that is a constant reminder that oh, life is really a beautiful and special thing. and family is so important.
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it's everything. >> that is, this is from me to you. >> i remember i took chandler when she was about four, i took her to the dress shop in downtown. and the kids really loved the owner of the dress shop, miss heather. so, the next day when i picked the kids up from school, i asked if they could come see miss feather. they said yeah, sure. this heather was very pregnant. [laughs] i didn't mind. so, it took about six months before i got the nerve to ask her out on the date. and as they see, the rest is history. >> daddy, luckily i got
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heather. >> i remarried in 2007. >> isn't that nice? >> it wasn't easy to move on like that. but it taught me a lesson that the heart can expand. and love is a precious thing. we shouldn't ignore it. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> being a 9/11 survivor is something that you never forget. you have to be able to persevere. and i try my best every single
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day to overcome my fears. i try every single day. i think i do okay. there are days that i think too much and then there's days that ok, i'm good, let's do this. ♪ ♪ ♪ is there somebody here to see me? >> there is. >> how are you? >> hey. >> how you doing, buddy? >> i guess the struggle to survive is a really powerful part of being a human being. we have this incredible resiliency. we can survive all kinds of
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things. wars, famines, all kind of hardships that human beings go through. >> it doesn't matter. >> you can just find a spot anywhere. >> and then once we are surviving, the struggle to be happy. that's something else. just learning to be okay with not being okay. learning to embrace that discomfort and being okay with discomfort. until it passes. >> i think that's about it. >> thank you. >> that's good. >> should i just exit?
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>> i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline. " >> it's been extremely hard. >> the hardest part was the crime scene picture of our mom. >> i always told myself she didn't see it coming. >> a mother, at work in her office -- murdered. >> someone shot her and just let her die. >> 4 bullets. making sure she was dead. >> who wanted this very nice, professional woman dead? >> police start to dig. her new fiance -- >> he was like, i have to move on. >> it was just very suspicious. >> her final client.

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